Episode 102: Becoming Resilient with Caleb Price

Episode Summary

As humans, we have an instinctive tendency to want to avoid pain and discomfort. This inclination can sometimes lead us to live our lives avoiding failure and seeking the perfect circumstances—the perfect mate, the perfect job, the perfect house in the perfect place—in order to ensure our happiness.

But when we need life to go right or be easy in order to be happy, it makes it really easy to give up when things get hard—even when we’re doing the things we really want to do.

The key to creating the life you want (even when things are hard) is developing resilience. Resilience allows us to live our life and pursue our dreams without needing it to be comfortable all the time.

In this episode of the podcast, my son, Caleb, and I share how to become resilient and discuss how discovering our own power to choose our experience and feel our feelings makes us resilient in every circumstance we face.

Episode Tools and Questions

Everyone will face adversity. It’s part of our earth life experience. What’s important is how we choose to think when things don’t go how we want them to. Resilience gives us the power to overcome difficulty and stay in pursuit of what we want out of life. Building our resilience is what helps us find ways to move forward towards our dreams - even if our brain says we should give up.

Our brains will always try to protect us by telling us to avoid pain. But when we understand that resilience grows by facing our discomfort and choosing our thoughts about it, we can build our capacity to feel bad. When we can get good at feeling bad, if we’re willing to experience any negative emotion to get to the other side, nothing can stand between us and the life we want to live.

In this episode, my son Caleb and I discuss how we’ve become more resilient and how it has impacted the way we show up, regardless of the circumstance. Resilience means you don’t have to wait until things are perfect to be happy, because you have the strength to create your experience even when life gets hard.

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Episode Transcript

Welcome to the 100% Awesome Podcast with April Price, you might not know it, but every result in your life is 100% because of the thought you think. And that, my friends, is 100% awesome!

Hello, podcast universe! Welcome to Episode 102 of the 100% Awesome Podcast, I'm April Price, and I have something really special planned for today's episode. As most of you know, I am the mother to four amazing, gorgeous children, and three of them have already left our home and are out there creating lives of their own. And my oldest son, Caleb, has recently started his own podcast, it's called Relatable Thoughts. You can find it wherever you get your podcast, and it is awesome. This podcast is about Caleb's own journey with thought work, his own experience with coaching, and how he is navigating life as a young adult, and how thought work is helping him do all of that. And I hope he doesn't mind me sharing that.

He recently actually signed up for certification at the Life Coach School in addition to getting his degrees in physics, and math, because of the impact that coaching has had on him. And like when he first told us that he was thinking about getting certified as a life coach, my husband said, "But you're so smart." I was like, "Hey, wait a minute!" But of course, I know what he means, right? Like, Caleb is brilliant of all of us in our house, he is the brilliant one. And he can do anything with his life. And yet that doesn't make him immune to the chatter, and negativity of his own human brain. And he has been able to see the immense value of having tools to be able to manage his mental, and emotional life. And he knows that these tools will help him no matter what he decides to do in his future. So anyway, kind of fun! He's getting certified anyway, and because he has a podcast, and he was coming home to visit for my birthday weekend, he said, "Hey, while I'm there, we should record a podcast together." And of course, I was all in for that.

So, this episode that we recorded together is all about resilience, and developing mental, and emotional resilience to be able to handle the circumstances of our life, right? Life is going to give each one of us challenges, that is, in fact why we came. We came for the educational opportunities that life naturally provides us, and we came to live in this foreign world with circumstances, and with people that we can't control, because in that environment, we can learn to control ourselves. And the miracle of thought work, and coaching, and understanding that your thoughts, and never anything outside of you, are what are actually creating your life experience.

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Like the miracle of that idea is that it allows you to circumstance proof your life, right? It allows you to be resilient through anything, because no matter what happens, or what other people do, you never lose your agency to choose how you think, and feel, and act. And then, that creates the results of your life. No matter what happens, your power to choose your thoughts, in fact, protect you from any circumstance. And when you really understand that, you see how resilient you are in every situation of life. Okay, so I hope this discussion will help you will help you be more resilient in your own life, and see how powerful you really are. Even in a world where you don't control any of it, you always just control you. And it turns out that is the only thing you need to control. Okay, so here we go!

April: All right, buddy, welcome to the podcast!

Caleb: Thank you. Good to be here. This is so weird.

April: Right? Yeah, dad thought it was weird too.

Caleb: Well, I like it. I mean, it's just weird because I'm talking to another human being instead of my podcast where I'm like by myself at 6:00 in the morning at the kitchen table, just like, we're doing this.

April: I kind of love that you do it at six a.m. If I did at 6am, I would wake everybody up.

Caleb: Yeah thats fair.

April: Okay, well, my audience doesn't know this, but you just started a podcast.

Caleb: I did, I did just start a podcast.

April: And you came down for my birthday and we were both thinking, hey, we got to do a little collaboration or as the kids say..." A collab." But as you say it, it's a Co Lab. But Olivia says we say it wrong it's a "collab" not a Co Lab.

Caleb: No, I know. I'm like I feel like I'm supposed to be a young adult and should know all these things, but I'm still like, very much out of the picture with any of the social stuff

April: Out of the lingo?

Caleb: Yes.

April: Okay well, so we're going to do a collaboration we use the whole word that's easier for us?

Caleb: Yes, better, yeah.

April: And kind of talk about, recently I had a client reach out and say, hey, could you do a podcast about resilience, emotional resilience. And especially for my young adults, and the teenagers in my life. But I think really, and truly, emotional resilience is something no matter what age you are, something that is really important to develop in your life.

Caleb: Yeah, no, I totally agree. Like, it's just something that's always going to be a constant in your life. And so, if you can learn how to get good at it really early on, that'll give you, as you always talk about, the power necessary for you to get the things that you want in your life. And to make the life your own, not just circumstantial, not subject to negative emotion," and whatever your brain is just telling you, basically.

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April: Yeah, totally. So, we kind of thought we'd go through we chatted before this like the top things that we think sort of help with emotional resilience, and we're going to kind of talk through those. So, the first one that came up for us is that we live in a fallen world, a world where there is 50/50 experiences for each one of us. And, you know, we could say, like, bad things are going to happen. And, of course, bad things is an interpretation, right? They're all just circumstances happening to us. But 50% of the time, we're going to interpret what's happening to us as negative, and hard, and difficult, and challenging, right? And sometimes we think I think that if I could just, like, fix my life perfectly, right? Pick the right major, pick the right job, pick the right mate, pick the right place to live, on, and on, and on, and on. If we can arrange the perfect circumstances, then we will have a better chance of being happy, all the time.

Caleb: Right. It's just like this kind of like, I don't know, like a paradox that we get into all the time. Just like if I do this one thing, like my life will be better, and then once you finally reach that thing, you're actually like, oh, never mind, actually, my life is still kind of the same. Oh, that means I need to go to the next thing or the next thing. It's always one more thing that's going to make our lives better. But if you are always constantly thinking that, then your life is always like that.

April: Yeah. And so I think we sort of approach like we want to be resilient by changing our circumstances.

Caleb: Yeah like oh, like I'm really good, I like this is what I'm supposed to do. Like I'm resilient. I like that. Because I definitely like that. Like that's me in a nutshell. Like I don't know. Basically, we were talking earlier, like in my life I did do pretty well in school. I just really like like school a lot. There wasn't really as we're talking about, like I studied the violin, and there was this one time, like my violin teacher, like straight up just asked me, like, "Is there anything like have you ever experienced anything hard in your life?" And I'm just like, no, honestly, like I'm just like, nothing's really hard. And she's like, "Well, how do you expect to be like any of these great musicians who like experience, like so much hardship, and create all this beautiful stuff, and they just were able to do it." And I'm like, I just was perplexed. I was like, isn't like, it not supposed to be hard? Because I went through violin just thinking like it's not supposed to be hard, like I'm supposed to just get it, like this is supposed to come to me. And then, it was the hardest thing I had done up until that point, being able to practice, and just consistently being told, no, that's wrong, now, this is wrong. Not that like, being wrong was a bad thing. Like you're not supposed to be wrong. You're not supposed to be you're supposed to just get it supposed to play fantastic, it's just supposed to be like smooth sailing. Like it's like super easy to be a prodigy, even though, like, there's like only a handful of prodigies. So like, why are we all prodigies? Just this weird conundrum. Yeah. That my brain just really got into. And it still is like very prevalent in my life.

April: Yeah, as soon as that negative emotion for whatever we're doing raises, if we are emotionally resilient, we feel like, okay I got to change the circumstance, I got to change what I'm doing. This must not be right.

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Caleb: Right. So, it's really easy for my brain to just tell me, like, oh, we should quit this. Like, this isn't for me. Like, this is hard. I'm not good enough. Therefore, I don't like feeling this way. And so, it just it's always the back door basically just like your brain's like, hey, like we still can leave this, we can still go, like we don't have to feel this way. Like this isn't really what you want, you don't want to feel bad. And it was just really tempting all the time just to be like. And like always sitting on that fence, it's not comforting either way. You like, even if you're all in, you're still gonna have those thoughts. But even just sitting on the fence, you're just constantly going back and forth.

April: Totally. So, I think it's just, I do recognize that if we aren't emotionally resilient, we move from circumstance to circumstance, a circumstance which is not necessarily negative, but it may not give us the life we want. So, if I really want a life as a violinist, turns out you don't, but if you really had if we're just constantly trying to change that circumstance, you might not end up, you know, end up getting what you really want.

Caleb: Exactly. Yeah, so I made that decision not to choose to keep going down violin, but that was like after like just all this separation, I just it was a really good moment of me deciding that's not what I wanted. But I think it's really easy for people to think like, I don't want this thing because I don't want to feel negative emotion. Instead, we should go into change, and like as if, like, I really like this. I love what I was doing because I accept the whole experience. I accept the 50/50 experience and then go into changing, or changing a circumstance with that same mindset of like, I'm accepting the future 50/50, knowing completely that it's going to be great in some cases. And there's going to be just as hard, probably even harder days ahead in that experience, just as much. And without like this kind of naive innocence that just like, oh, like everything's going to be better if I just do this one thing, like I'll finally feel good in my life. Even though that's totally under control to feel good in life.

April: Yes. That's that's the other part of this, right? That, of course, even when we're feeling the negative 50, our brain has created it and and that's okay. But we just have to recognize that at any time we want something else that is in our capacity to change it, we have that ability. So, I'd like you to tell everybody kind of the experience you had just this week. He's working with a professor on a physics project. And just tell them a little bit about that it's a really good example.

Caleb: It's a great experience. Like I like to think about, resilience is something you practice at. And so kind of not that we should be. Well, in a sense, we should be kind of seeking these opportunities to be resilient just because anything that we want in life is going to require resilience. Like I said, I love talking about like everything we want in life requires resistance. And in order to overcome resistance, we need resilience. But anyway, so I'm working on this project. It's just like kind of like I'm a math and physics major. And so, I work with this professor kind of on theoretical research, and plasma physics. And so and he's one of those guys that's super intense. Just imagine like a physics professor, like being like way like blowing your mind and stuff, and like which is all these things. I'm like very much focus on the fundamentals. And if you don't understand the fundamentals, like you don't understand, like you need to start from the beginning, you can't keep going. Which is something that I always struggle with, like it's something I struggle with. Violin really easy to just be like, oh, I know how to do this. I know how to play like I know how to do math like I can.

April: Do you remember when you first we first went to Leah, and she was like, hey, let's start with your bold. And you're like, what the heck?

Caleb: Yeah. I just thought, this is stupid, I already know how to do this, but it's the only way to grow, basically starting from the fundamentals. And so, like which is always the hardest thing for me. It's probably the hardest thing for every human being obviously, but it's the place to start. Anyway so, I've been studying with this professor for about six weeks now, and this last session that I did where I meet every time, and I present what I've been doing, I started to present, and he started like poke holes in something, ask for understanding, and clarification, on if I understood the fundamentals of what I was talking about. And bluntly, basically, I couldn't really explain because I hadn't put in that much effort, I think, as well, it's just where I was, my level. He has really high expectations, and so he bluntly was just like, you don't understand anything. Like you're stupid. You basically have wasted these two years of your physics career. And so, like that doesn't make anyone feel good. Well I mean it's just my thoughts, but still like my brains automatically like: "Danger! Holy cow.
Why are we here. We got to get out of here. We are being attacked like yes, our tribe is turning against us, and we need to run." So, like really all those emotions just come up and so but I was able to just without work, recognize, like my expectation of this is like I'm trying to grow from this, and the best way to grow is through resistance, and being able to be resilient in those kinds of situations. But it was really easy for my brain to just offer the thought like we should quit. Yeah, like this doesn't feel good. Yeah, we should quit like this. You're not good enough clearly for this. Maybe this isn't for you. Maybe you're just not a physics person. Yeah. Like clearly he expects a lot from us and we can't give that.

April: And can I just interrupt for one second. It's just like this is what happens to all of us, no matter what we're working on, as soon as negative emotion shows up, our instinct is to quit. Our instinct is like, this can't be right. We have sort of this idea that if it's right, there will be some ease to it, right? Like it will feel good.

Caleb: It defines my life. If it's right, like it's kind of cookie cutter fit. Satisfaction! like boom made for this, basically.

April: And so, I think each one of us, no matter where we are in our life, if we can recognize that like negative emotion is not a signal to stop, it is not a signal to quit. It's an opportunity to know that your brain is uncomfortable, and it's threatened. And yet you can manage that to get what you want, right? If you really want a physics degree, if you really want muscles, if you really want a business, then when your brain produces this negative emotion and says, quit, we keep going."

Caleb: Exactly. So, I think, like those moments of resilience are great opportunities for you to draw on whatever you considered your higher motivation in the first place. You like yourself concept of who you are as a person. Like like what I'm always trying to work out is like I'm a figure out here, like I'm a problem solver. And so, I can do that in any circumstance, basically. So that, like, drawing on events as like my definition I give myself, or just like some kind of higher motivation of why we're doing this in the first place. So like, if I was drawn to physics in the first place is because I had this great desire to like study fusion energy, because I feel like that's a great future resource that we were all going to need in the future. It could bless so many people's lives. So, it was very like selfless motivation is gives you the fuel, the power, necessary to overcome that resilience. But if we kind of forget it in the moment. Or not to say that we can't always change, but it's again, the change from a point of avoiding negative emotion is the change. What is it? The temporary solution to a permanent problem. I really love that quote. Yeah. Like, it's never going to resolve what's actually the real issue, which is just your brain wants to avoid pain. You can't you can't avoid pain in this life.

April: Totally. And I think that's a really good point to remember is that like, let's say we cut and run, right? And we like we're like, "yeah, I quit. I'm done with this." We have not entered a life in an alternate universe in which, okay now there's no discomfort, right? There's another discomfort. There's the regret. There's the lost dreams. There's like, oh, I wish I would have tried that. There's like a million other things that that are going to provide a negative emotional experience. And it's not like we quit that thing, and then everything is hunky dory.

Caleb: Yeah, perfect utopia.

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April: Totally, totally. So, I was just talking to a client this morning who is talking about how she's facing like a new challenge at work where they're asking you to do something that is like the next level in her skill level, right? And her brain is just like scared, and feeling inadequate, and anxious, and scared about just feeling right. And so, like she said, she's like, I just noticed my brain is always like, you know what, we should just quit this job and go be a stay at home mom, and take care of our kids and just like do that thing. And not to say that staying home is something that isn't worthy, and some people want. But she wants something else, right? She has specific goals in her career. And so, when her brain offers the alternative that she thinks will be without in this moment, will be without negative emotion, it's just good to remember, oh, I'll get there, and then I'll be I'll have another experience with negative emotion.

Caleb: Exactly. It's always kind of a it's always a growing thing. And especially as you learn to manage your brain, your brain's going to get better at trying to convince you that this is in all different kinds of ways, that this is wrong. This is, or not right is probably the best one. And that, like, you should be doing something different, you should quit. Like, I'll be honest, like I really wanted to quit in that moment. Because I was just like, I'm done. Like, this isn't right. And like that's still a decision for me to work through. But like, it was really helpful in the moment. A grad student basically reached out and was just like to the professor, like, hey, maybe you're jumping to conclusions a little bit. Maybe you're being a little harsh, and all these little things, which I mean, to be granted, I would think, yeah, you're being like a jerk. But like it was really nice to have them kind of stand up, because then it just caused my brain to be like, wait, hold on a minute. Like maybe I am, like, overreacting. Maybe this is like this is definitely a thought that's happening to me. So, that's why I like the power of a life coach is really there just to point out like, "Remember, this is just a thought or remember, like you wanted this dream in the first place."

So, kind of those moments for because it's really easy for to let your brain, your lower brain take the wheel, totally just drive. And you're like, well, he knows what's right, but he just, just let them go. And not have someone like say like like maybe, maybe you should reconsider. Like to just say like this is something you actually want in your life. You want to do this next step. Your brain is just telling you you don't want to because you don't want to feel bad. But that's a really poor reason. If you're going to have the opportunity to feel 50% bad the rest of your life.

April: Yeah. I feel like you can make any choice you want in your career, who you marry, in your life, where you live, all the choices you get to make any choice you want. But we never want to make the choice as a mechanism to avoid negative emotion, because it's just not, it's not sustainable. It's not effective. And you never really can avoid the negative emotion.

Caleb: Exactly. Throw some physics out there like entropy always increases. There's no avoiding that. That's because we're in a fallen world. There's no way to go backwards on that. So, it's the same with negative emotion. Negative emotion never relents, basically never decreases. It's always a presence in our life. Which is why I think it's so valuable to practice resilience, kind of like embracing these moments to take charge, embrace the negative emotion, even if it turns out to be something we don't want in the future.

April: Correct.

Caleb: I've been debating like, oh, maybe life coaching is a great option for my life. Maybe physics isn't the right thing, but it's really easy for my brain to think like, oh, this is a mechanism to avoid every, all the pain that we want in the world. Like we don't want to do this anymore just because we think it's tiring, it's boring. Any negative emotion attached to it. This research that I'm doing with physics is an excellent opportunity to practice resilience, to practice something that I've never done before, to really see like like when the rubber hits the road, how does my brain react? And so, like, I think it's a great opportunity for every one of us to seek out these experiences, the experiences along the way to our goals, and our dreams, to see if we can be resilient. Like we've been exercising for like two years now and in the beginning. And it's really easy for my brain to be like, this is hard. And we don't want to do this anymore. Like, I'm tired especially, but we just practice being resilient, and kind of like shutting off that brain a little bit. And now it's just like habit. Like we don't have to worry about that anymore. Like, yes, the brain still kind of just says things and it says it every day, basically like this. Tired and I want to do this. You don't need to. It's not completely irrelevant. It doesn't even register.

That's what my brain is like. That's what you're doing, what you're supposed to think. Like I'm just going to go to the gym because that's what I do, and I like it.

April: Totally. And ultimately it's what I want. This idea that I don't want it because I'm tired is just a lie that my brain is telling me to get out of spending this energy.

Caleb: Exactly. And so I think identifying those areas where we're the weakest in is this like it's kind of like, we could say like God's way of telling us, like what we want to work on the most, like where we can be the most resilient, and like and grow into the person that we're supposed to be. Like who we want to become. I think it's super valuable, too, because like for me, like in the beginning, school is like always been something that I don't have to be that resilient. Like, it just kind of came to me. Yeah. And now this experience with physics is like oh my gosh I've never encountered this before. Like this is means it's wrong. Now when you encounter resilience, it most likely means it's right for you. It's just an opportunity for you. You need to you get the chance to grow from this.

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April: Yeah. Brilliant. I love it. Okay so, I just I think as we as we talk about resilience, like the tools that can really help us be more resilient is first recognizing there's going to be negative emotion either way. So now what do I want? Like if I know it's going to be hard either way, what do I really want? And tapping into that and just allowing the negative emotion to be there. And I think the next idea that can really help us be resilient is to remember that the worst thing that can ever happen to us is a negative emotion. We are so, our brain is like, when you had that moment with your physics professor, your brain is like we quit. Like, this is terrible. But the very worst thing that will happen as you continue to expose yourself to the professor, and his criticism is a negative emotion that your brain will create for you.

Caleb: Exactly. It's shame, guilt for maybe not doing much, beating up on yourself, like all these kinds of emotions, just wrapped in a nice package, it's always given to me, so, yeah, and recognizing like that, it honestly can sincerely feel like the worst thing ever. Yes. But at the same time, if you're willing to accept that much power, that gives you.

April: Totally. If you can feel negative emotion, there is nothing you can't have in your life. And so, I think really a skill that everyone needs is the ability to feel bad. And by that, I mean to feel it in your body, to scan your body. What does fear feel like? What does inadequacy feel like? What does shame feel like? Where is it in my body when I can process that through in my body, and recognize, hey, I'm still alive? I felt this emotion. I felt this vibration. I felt this heat, whatever. However it shows up in your body, and then you can move on and get what you want. And I think, like, we're so resistant to feeling it. But if we open to it and feel it in our body, it's like the whole world opens up because there is nothing you can't do if you're willing to feel bad.

Caleb: Yeah, you're unstoppable. You literally can't be stopped and that like, yeah, the brain is the worst thing that can stop you. Yeah. And that's the tools that it uses to stop you from doing anything.

April: So, I don't even think that we have to like try and feel good. We just have to get good at feeling bad, allowing that emotion, knowing my brain created this and I can just feel it in my body. And that has been such a game changer for me.

Caleb: Yeah. And I would say not resisting it because it's really easy for me to think like, oh, like I shouldn't be feeling bad. I just say like no, like I want to feel bad in this moment. I want to give this negative emotion a hug, let it come into my life. And because once it enters, it always leaves. Yeah. I'm a great quote. I love it's like, no emotion is ever permanent. Yeah. It's, it's always, it's always temporary. So like if you can last and endure through it more rather than endure.

April: I think embrace because if we're trying to just like endure it, it's sort of a resistance and we are holding it at bay.

Caleb: And I just grin and bear it and I like it doesn't work it doesn't go away. Then you're just like kind of sandpapering. It's like rubbing against you as constant in that sense. Rather than embracing it, you, you let it you let it come into you and then it eventually comes out.

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April: So, just yesterday I started my second group coaching program and so, you know, an hour before our first session, like I'm terrified, right? Like literally I did a thought download and my first sentence is like I am terrified, and felt like terror because my brain is just like, oh my gosh, like you could die. These people could be disappointed, this could be a terrible thing. And so I was just like, okay where is terror? I noticed that he on the side of my neck, and kind of like a clenching right there. I noticed he on the left side of my body and my heart rate was like way up. And there was tingling all through my arms, all the way down to my fingers. And I was like, this is terror, right? All I have to do is experience it. And as I just watch it in my body, like my body processes it and it leaves. And then I'm like, okay now what? And then I can think about how I'm going to help, how I'm going to bless lives, how I'm going to grow through this experience? How I'm good at what I do, and how this will bless other people, and their families. And you can get to the place where those thoughts that are empowering and powerful and useful to you are accessible to you. But I think you have to really feel the negative emotion first.

Caleb: And that it's okay.

April: It's totally fine.

Caleb: Actually, probably really great that you're feeling it.

April: Yeah, right. It's totally fine. And I just notice, like, oh, my brain, so fascinating to me, that my brain is so worried about my safety here that it's producing this enormous amount of like energy, and vibration in my body to get me to stop. It's fascinating.

Caleb: It's amazing what the brain can do.

April: So, I think like if I could give advice to anybody about being resilient, is that like if you get good at feeling bad, like, you can, you can create anything you want, you can endure any circumstance there is. No matter what happens in your life or in the world, you can handle it.

Caleb: And I would say like advice, especially to the young people, is to really embrace it and to truly practice, practice, experiencing the negative emotion and still continuing to go forward. Because it's really it's just kind of a culture we've created for ourselves in that we're not supposed to feel negative emotion. And I just like, you know, in our medicine, our technology and just everything. And so, that's what we're born into, is that like this idea that we're not supposed to feel this way? And so I think the best advice you could just give him is just like no, like this is supposed to be hard, like it's supposed to be hard. And that doesn't mean you quit when it gets hard, because that's really the biggest thing we've been taught is like not from from the world, is that you quit when it's hard. You you stop doing it because you shouldn't be feeling pain.

April: And if you're feeling pain, you're doing it wrong in some way.

Caleb: Exactly. You're not following God's plan. It's not meant for you. Any number of thoughts can stop you because you're thinking I shouldn't be feeling this way.

April: Yeah. I think all of that is so important to remember. And I also think it's so good to recognize that actually we didn't come to be happy and comfortable. We actually came to Earth to get better, at feeling bad and to get better at experiencing the negative emotion. And for those of us, those of our listeners that are followers of Christ, and trying to be more like him, I think he is like the ultimate example of being able, and willing to feel negative emotion, and go forward anyway. Not quit, not give up when it was like I would rather do anything but this. But in those moments where, like, he faced like the greatest fight ever, and experienced all of our pain, and suffering, there was no way to do it with avoiding the negative experience. And in fact, I think he had the skills of like being able to feel negative emotion, and not let it not quit, not let it shake him, not move. And so, as you gain those skills in smaller areas in your life, it's helping you be resilient like him.

Caleb: And I think especially like how he asked his father if it could be taken from him. We're going to have all those moments and we're going to we're going to do it or we're going to wonder. And I think it's important to recognize in those moments that not like that. That is kind of the bitter cup in our own little moments that we kind of need to drink in order to accomplish the great works. And just think about how much joy came from that moment for the world and for himself as our Savior. I think it's just really empowering to see that we can emulate our life like him, to be able to recognize that we to be able to embrace all that pain, all that negative emotion and still produce such wonderful, such good from it.

April: And you're right, he experienced growth. We will experience growth, and we get to bless the world. And that is such an amazing, amazing thing to realize.

Caleb: Yeah, I think really the only way we can truly blessed the world in the way that we want to.

April: That's a really good thought. The only way I really can bless the world is by being willing to feel negative emotion and be resilient through it.

Caleb: It's pretty awesome.

April: Okay, thanks for being here.

Caleb: Thank you.

April: I love you so much.

Caleb: I love you too. Thanks for inspiring me to do this podcast for me too. So yeah, it's pretty awesome. Yeah. You're doing a lot of good work.

April: So are you.

Isn't he awesome? Yes, he is, and I had nothing to do with it, I promise you. I know that for sure. Remember that no matter what is happening in your life, you can handle it. You didn't come to Earth to feel happy all the time. You were designed to feel and process negative emotion and keep going to choose how you're going to think about it and keep going so that you can create the life you want. And that, my friends, is 100% awesome. I love you for listening and I'll see you next week.

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